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Title: Freedom Of Speech Dead In UK
Post by: Arius Didymus on March 07, 2017, 01:53:16 am

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-39118846

About time to call it quits in regards to calling the UK a Democracy noe, isn't it? This is behavior one expects from the Reich. They did nothing wrong, but police did wrong from enforcing a bad law.

Title: Re: Freedom Of Speech Dead In UK
Post by: surreptitious57 on March 20, 2017, 04:32:38 am

Without police intervention that could have escalated into violence. And so for that reason they had to be removed
However I do not think they should have been arrested for religiously motivated speech designed to cause offence
Telling Muslims their God does not exist makes no sense because it is the same one in Christianity [ and Judaism ]
 

Title: Re: Freedom Of Speech Dead In UK
Post by: Arius Didymus on March 21, 2017, 08:39:06 am

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/20/police-drag-anti-mass-migration-campaigner-asking-anti-islamophobia-protestors-questions/

Yeah,  your country has a history of removing all dissent to political discourse. In the US,  we just deploy riot policy as 30 some groups with different opinions protest,  letting them be so long as they don't actually attack people or property. It's where you get the stupid liberal pictures of little women acting tough to riot police,  saying it sparked a movement or defined a moment,  as the police backed off. Obviously cops in full riot kit with riot gas on standby aren't backing down out of fear of a little confused woman,  but because of contingency planning for controlling such situations can usually (not always)  be asserted,  such as taking a position with room to the rear,  allowing them to fall back- if they can't,  then it gets violent, and little woman gets maced. Many groups figured this out so press for the photographic finished.

In Korea,  they literally make protest phalanxs with PVC pipe and garbage can shields,  going up against Roman styled police.

Democracies go through this violence because the speech and expression is considered more vital than the tyranny of a absolutely peaceful protest. UK is increasingly not a democracy because it doesn't allow increasingly dissent,  not just to government,  but movements.

And only Muslims,  Unitarians,  and Baha'i believe the Muslim God is the same as the Christian.  No Christian says this.

Title: Re: Freedom Of Speech Dead In UK
Post by: Arius Didymus on March 23, 2017, 07:50:48 am

http://project-free-tv.li/movies/watch/?aff_id=440035

Okay,  now I understand,  just watched the movie "The Lobster", now I know your country is in terminal decline. Knew something was up with "Children of Men", but now I get why the terrorists hate your country so much,  and why everyone is so quick to embrace them and die. It is in your nature- all those posts by you and Manni- it is all coming together now. Disgusting,  a whole nation committing suicide.

Do not become a Lobster.

Title: Re: Freedom Of Speech Dead In UK
Post by: surreptitious57 on March 24, 2017, 05:35:14 am

I think you will find that it is not hatred of a single country. Rather of the West in general
Both in terms of what it has done in Iraq and in Syria and of the values that it represents

Title: Re: Freedom Of Speech Dead In UK
Post by: MagsJ on March 24, 2017, 11:05:34 am

Quote from: surreptitious57 on March 24, 2017, 05:35:14 am

I think you will find that it is not hatred of a single country. Rather of the West in general
Both in terms of what it has done in Iraq and in Syria..

...more like what it has done throughout history in general.. ruining nations and civilisations.. like kicking over sandcastles at the beach because they are too sensational, then exercising the concept known as culture-stealing.. and so it goes on ad infinitum.. reason why a Nubian temple looks like later Greco-Roman architecture.

Title: Re: Freedom Of Speech Dead In UK
Post by: Arius Didymus on March 25, 2017, 09:40:40 pm

Nubia converted to Christianity of it's own accord early on,  wasn't even as a unified nation but various kingdoms importing different creeds popular north in Egypt at that time. It was largely positive and stimulated state formation that lasted a thousand years. No white person,  nor colonialism forced Nubia to convert,  quite to the contrary. Records still exist,  as well as local church services,  I was editing a text a month or so back (maybe two)  on the history of one of the local kingdoms.

Wasn't until the Turks,  followed by British-French struggles in the 1880's during the Madhi War that anything resembling western colonialism emerged,  and the way it emerged was honestly rather absurd.

They are a ancient people, well documented and not dependent on outsiders for their existence. Same goes for Ethiopia,  nobody forced them to design their churches as such. When you choose to see the world through white racial colonialism you miss a lot of preceding history,  or worst,  the need to overinflate it. Nubia is,  no better,  no worst,  than a lower tier civilization who rubbed shoulders with the Granarian Civilization,  Ur,  and Egypt,  even conquering Egypt at times,  but due to the Cataphracts in the Nile River,  couldn't form a large state in antiquity or the middle ages for long. It has great antiquity,  but was rarely stand out amazing- which is in fairness a characterization of most states,  and is far better than most people who couldn't even form the rudiments of central government and sedentary civilization, like my German ancestors couldn't. Nubia was civilized far longer than my people ever would,  and the Germans didn't have the excuse of harsh terrain or logistical barriers.

Nubia has full rights to classical architecture,  they after all participated in it.