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The Young Turks Support Incest
« on: February 25, 2017, 02:14:41 am »
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uISyLEAHZBI

I just found this. I brought up a year or so back on ILP the very weird find that liberal blue states,  almost all,  same out in support of incest,  while conservative states outlawed it:

http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=190051&hilit=Incest+liberals

It is one of those things that caught everyone off guard,  including me,  nobody expected it,  but with hard to dispute facts. Eventually the liberals in the thread came out in support of incest.

It absolutely amazes me it's taken as a consent issue,  and not as a social evil- it produces retarded people,  the outer ring of hillbillies to every city just beyond the suburbs,  where property prices tumble cause the neighbors keep marrying inside the family one generation after the next,  and clearly look it. It was either Mo or Monero who tried brushing the mutation rare from 4% to 6%, what he doesn't get is,  when you have a bunch of people doing that,  that's dozens,  hundreds,  thousands of extra retards around,  and retards still have sex drives,  and make more and more. Pretty soon, everyone is a tator tot.

We stopped that for a reason.... a reason enforced on uncooperative mideval rednecks back in the 11th century and to the (near)  present,  to avoid the accumulation of birth defects and disorders that screwing one's kin brings.

Now we gotta give up on it all because some cross eyed liberal wants to do his sister.

I wish I knew of this video back when I first made that thread. Amazing. You cannot rationalize with a retarded or sick person. You tell them no,  try to keep them from baby making.

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Re: The Young Turks Support Incest
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2017, 05:37:07 am »
If Nihilists remain true to their own principles it follows that after homosexuality, transsexuality, comes the turn of other sexual dysfunctions, product of a sick world, gone mad.
I predict, that after transsexuals are legitimized, as homosexuals have been, in about a decade or three, the next phase will be to legitimize, to bring out of the closet and 'normalize' pedophiles, on the grounds that love is what all deserve, and denying it to children is based on ageism, then the usual attacks on those who refuse to accept this new trend, as being closed-minded, children haters, bigots, afraid of children etc.
Incest should be part of this next phase.
After that will be the turn of animals, and breaking down species prejudices.
Same process.
Anyone who refuses to accept this new social trend, this progress towards enlightenment, will be attacked as bigots, animal haters, of animal-phobes....
I suspect the system will collapse before we ever get to that stage, if it is allowed to, but who knows what a Brave New world it will be?

It follows from Abrahamism.
All are equally sinners. All can find salvation, absolution, through God.
God, now the State, can save them, embracing their sinfulness, their degeneration, and offer them salvation in Paradise, or in this case Utopia, the secular, Marxist, version of freedom from reality, liberation from nature.
The State absolves genetic mutations of their unfitness, and the natural consequences that would follow.
Paraphilia forgiven.

It follows from the 'logic' of moderns:
Appearance does not matter
All is subjective
Everything human is a social construct, if not god's will - whatever the case a reason, a consciousness, creates it
There's nothing aggressive about intercourse - sex cleansed of its nature
All deserve love
Sex = love = God - Pleasure = good = God
Man is born a tabula rasa
Suffering is the product of man's corruption - his falling from grace - Noble Savage myth
Only restriction is the freedom of other - consent. But there are many ways one can give or receive consent - non-verbal. 

If they do not lie to themselves, if they are not hypocrites, then by their own beliefs, in accordance with their own stated principles, incest, pedophilia, bestiality are to be normalized as remnants of a primitive, unenlightened, past.

If you simply take their positions of race, as being rejected because it is based on superficial criteria, such as appearance, pigmentation, etc... and you apply it universally then you have an argument against the existence of species.
You see, imbeciles, Nihilists, never live according to their own declared beliefs. They only lie and selectively apply them.
Like Christians.
That's why suicide is now a 'sin'.
Because if you follow Christian "reasoning" to its logical end, in accordance to its own myths, then killing yourself is the only 'rational' thing to do.
To prevent this, they invented some bullshyte rule.
Islam did the same...only committing suicide in the name of Allah, is good....taking infidels with you, as part of your self-cleansing, is good.   
Weininger, and Heisman, to name two, discovered the logical underlying logic of Judaism.
Not so sure of Weininger, but Heisman actually wrote it in his Suicide Note before he killed himself to unite with the uniform void his clan worshiped.
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Re: The Young Turks Support Incest
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 07:22:36 am »
Consent is the vague bullshyte excuse moderns use.
They reason that immature humans, and animals that cannot speak words, cannot give consent.
This is ageism, and speciesm....or it will be so argued.

Ageism supposes that a child is unable to think what is good for it, as though adults are any better at it.
It also implies that unwanted goodness, that all, hypothetically deserve, will, somehow damage the child.
So, according to them sex is a wonderful thing, beautiful, pleasing....but it will hurt a child.
Well, they just contradicted themselves.

It would be like saying massages feel good and are good for you, so being forced to endure an unwanted massage is traumatic.
Or, love is beautiful, good, so being forced to endure unwanted love is destructive.

Second, in regards to species who have a different way of communicating intent, and therefore a different manner in giving consent, speciesm, it will be argued, is a prejudice for life that can use logos, that can use words.
Having intercourse with your dog does not harm anybody, and the dog seems to like it....because it wags its tail, and it mounts the woman when she comes around, without being coerced.
So, a dog that humps her leg is actually asking for consent from the woman to mount her.

Once you accept a delusion, as your starting premise, the logic follows.
It's like setting foundations crookedly.
The foundation dictates what direction your building will take, and how long it will last before it crumbles.

The first delusional premises uniting all nihilists, is that all is subjective, and if it does not harm anyone, in other words if it does not restrict another's subjectivity, any perspective, any belief, and any choice resulting from it, is not worse or better than any other.
This has already presupposed objective reality away.
It begins by assuming everything is a product of a living, conscious mind.
All order is an order based on consciousness.
No natural order, discovered....but all order is totalitarianism, authoritarianism, if it is imposed on the subjective order of another.
Immediately we see how nature, is defined as evil, as fascism.
This will help us explain the current trendiness of transsexualism, but also the anti-race, anti-sex, fashion currently dominating the west.
Anything nature produces, any order founded on order man has no power over, is to be condemned. But to do so would be to accuse the unconscious of a motive.
How do not barter, trick, beg, demand when confronted with unconscious processes?
you can't.
So, you must make it all a product of a will, a consciousness. First God....then the state, that comes in to replace God, and then the individual himself.
Therefore all is subjective means all is a product of a mind. 
Natural order, is not discovered, and reported, it is constructed...and if not by God, then?
A human.
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Re: The Young Turks Support Incest
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 11:03:24 am »
Paedophilia and bestiality and incest should all be universally outlawed. Paedophilia and bestiality
because children and animals can not give consent. Incest because of inbreeding. Homosexuality
is different to them since it is between consenting adults who are not blood related to each other
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Re: The Young Turks Support Incest
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2017, 12:03:58 pm »
Paedophilia and bestiality and incest should all be universally outlawed. Paedophilia and bestiality
because children and animals can not give consent. Incest because of inbreeding. Homosexuality
is different to them since it is between consenting adults who are not blood related to each other

I know the propaganda.
Reread what I wrote.

Next phase will be legitimizing paedophilia.
This will happen after transsexuals are normalized.

They will begin with subtle messages in movies, then become increasingly overt.
You have no clue what this dis-ease is.
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Re: The Young Turks Support Incest
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2017, 08:24:50 pm »
Of course you can give consent as a child to sex,  that was one of the jokes to the child ****-pedogogy sex scenes in The Satyricon (notice Fellini excluded that scene from his movie?) 

Basically, the teacher was a male live tutor,  teaching a aristocratic boy,  and started molesting him over time,  the boy saying he would tell his mother,  getting the man in trouble. Over time though,  the boy liked it,  and demanded more sex than the MSN could provide,  so the teacher told him to quit pestering him for more sex,  or he will tell his mother.

That Milo guy from Brietbart,  quit over trying to explain something similar. I have no doubt a child can consent,  Sauwelios on ILP has a thread about how he liked watching pedophilic **** in the Netherlands (legal in that country)  because if a girl consents, it is legal. I lashed out on him like the public did to Milo,  but a few years prior,  mostly on the basis that yes,  while a girl who can menstrate can have adult sex physically,  even look attractive,  that isn't the point- we as a society shouldn't make sex objects out of people incapable of having adult relations, and the consequences, children and families. Young teens still in high school knocked up is generally not good for the mothers education.

Murdering the child isn't a wise choice either,  as it misses the problem,  early sexualitation of portions of the population unable to support the obvious results fooling around brings.

We try to separate sex from social roles and responsibility in our society,  as some legalistic fad philosophy. Why most people can't take granny's responsible is because most reject families (not a universal rule,  but obviously most do,  it's pure selfish hendonism,  no offspring).

Same with beastiality.  Yeah- I think a man can pursuade a horse to let him **** him,  and that horse can certainly become attached to the man. But ummm.... is that horse going to get power of attorney,  inherit property,  visit in hospital when that man grows old?  Yeah,  it can help our in certain social capacities,  plowing a neighbors farm,  pulling a sled or wagon in winter for Christmas or tourist tours,  but nobody can take that horse serious as a fully fledged member of society.  We aren't going to give a horse a jury trial,  much less respect a marriage contract between a man and a horse,  as I'm certain Mr. Ed is incapable of understanding what marriage means. And damn to hell if somehow a little centaur is born! You thought racism was bad now,  wait till centaurs start popping up.

Sex is good and pleasurable,  but it's aim is to make babies and bond people into romantic relations,  family building. A child isn't good for that. I think they can consent fully,  I was fully prepared at age 14 to have sex with Playmate Layla Roberts. I don't think I'm sexually more mature 20 years later than I was then.

It's the acceptability of a society preying on such youths. The transition from virginity to sexual experience is always sloppy,  we don't want brutal rapes,  frauds and trickery,  or other abuses like older people preying on that level of inexperience coming into the picture. Some fully sexualized adults have fetishes in these areas,  they can do that. I care not about old sterile people screwing,  just on the very bad effects that the people who should be looking for adult mates preying on the young.

You can't tell me though a 14 year old boy isn't mentally able to consent psychologically to sex with a playmate though. I so was. I couldn't raise a child at that age though. Sex is reproductive activity, even when you do it wrong (gay guys can't make babies together),  society insists on pretending today that it isn't. I don't care if your a stupid man **** holes in beehives,  trying to disprove me point- my point is,  everyone except test tube babies have parents who did the nasty,  birthed through a mother. We all know what father and mother us,  most admit having both growing up is preferred. Ethically,  sex should focus on that model first and for most. 99.999999% of the time,  today and in human history,  childbirth is a good thing,  as that's where society originates. It is a act of our renewal. Taking it seriously,  the methods of making new kids,  is something we should take seriously. We shouldn't live in s society that kills off millions of it's offspring via infanticide because we were unprepared for the obvious results of sexual union. I can't reasonably afford at this moment the results of sexual union,  so I avoid it. I'm no monk,  just realistic. I still lust. I'm working on getting myself into a position. Once I take a girlfriend or wife,  it us because I know I can support it enough to shelter,  feed and cloth the sucker till maturity. Impart basic ideas upon it,  send it out into the world to repeat the process. Year,  having a 14 year old girl like in Yemen for a wife solves make insecurity issues,  but it also results in a mother with a muddle school education unable to work outside of the home,  or educate your children properly past a certain age. It's better once they are older,  have a better sense of self,  awareness of the world,  know what is good and bad in men. Better able to navigate society.

Layla Roberts:


Any teenage boy is capable of concenting fully to sex with her. The problem is the results of that union. Something not grasped in modern anti-ethical arguments of equality and consent,  that results arise from our actions even when we don't intend them. A expert juggler juggling chainsaws dies not expect a accident,  but that's **** happens.  Consent is not the issue,  nor right to work,  but how wise the act it. At some point,  you drawl the line. For sex,  we put it at age 18, save if your married (who the hell need marry a 14 year old girl in this era? It's no longer a agrarian,  have 14 children,  illiterate society anymore,  where everyone died at age 45).

Rather it at 21, banning all sex even between minors before then. Or sex licences,  gotta prove you rent or in a apartment,  have a income before you ****.




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Re: The Young Turks Support Incest
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2017, 10:12:48 am »
Hate the young Turks 'cause they remind me of how old I am, being a Turk myself.

I'm all about nationalism....like all Nazis
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Re: The Young Turks Support Incest
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2017, 01:30:49 pm »
The reason why there is an age of consent is to protect children from adults. Because they are children they are
not deemed mature or responsible enough to make decisions for themselves. Now not every one matures at the
same age but you can not apply the law subjectively on a case by case basis and so it has to be the same for all
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Re: The Young Turks Support Incest
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2017, 03:13:18 pm »
The reason why there is an age of consent is to protect children from adults. Because they are children they are
not deemed mature or responsible enough to make decisions for themselves. Now not every one matures at the
same age but you can not apply the law subjectively on a case by case basis and so it has to be the same for all
That is so closed minded it sickens me.
First off, it is ageism, and secondly it assumes that sex is some kind of violent, disgusting act, children must give consent to enjoy....like being forces to endure a massage, or a kiss, or  hug.

Sure it can be uncomfortable when someone you don't know hugs you, but you're to going to go crying to the police if it happens.

And it is also closed-minded speceism, as if animals cannot give consent using their own form of communication, as if only humans are permitted the privilege of consenting.
Give me a break.

What a bigot.
Open your mind, buddy....prepare for the inevitable, the coming New Age.
Be enlightened.
Grow up!
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Re: The Young Turks Support Incest
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2017, 11:36:35 am »
As President of America I'm putting my foot down. No incest. Except for brother-sister incest or sister-sister incest.

It comes a time to draw a line and a line has been drawn. No funny business between father's and son's because that's no good.

However, if a 14 year old boy wants to have sex with a hot busty blonde woman, say his teacher for instance, I can't say no to that. I've never been a fan of religious tyranny.


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Re: The Young Turks Support Incest
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2017, 02:34:06 pm »
That's not at root even religious tyranny, if it was, stop signs would have to be religious tyranny too. A religion can embrace rules it didn't originate on the basis of pragmatism. Christians inherit the anti-incest rules from roman law, and centuries passed in the nasty middle ages when the rule wasn't enforced, leading to absurd deformities like The Hapsburgh Jaw.



These mutations stack up pretty quick in a incestous population. You've ever seen retarded families, where both the mother and father are tards? Kids don't usually come out as intellectual superstars. They are left to find similarly **** up mates, and that just keeps building one generation after the next. Soon you have entire areas full of retards.

Nothing stops them, they got a incredible sex drive. Retards everywhere.

 

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