Vivarium: Philosophy Discussions On Any Subject

Consent is the vague bullshyte excuse moderns use.
They reason that immature humans, and animals that cannot speak words, cannot give consent.
This is ageism, and speciesm....or it will be so argued.

Ageism supposes that a child is unable to think what is good for it, as though adults are any better at it.
It also implies that unwanted goodness, that all, hypothetically deserve, will, somehow damage the child.
So, according to them sex is a wonderful thing, beautiful, pleasing....but it will hurt a child.
Well, they just contradicted themselves.

It would be like saying massages feel good and are good for you, so being forced to endure an unwanted massage is traumatic.
Or, love is beautiful, good, so being forced to endure unwanted love is destructive.

Second, in regards to species who have a different way of communicating intent, and therefore a different manner in giving consent, speciesm, it will be argued, is a prejudice for life that can use logos, that can use words.
Having intercourse with your dog does not harm anybody, and the dog seems to like it....because it wags its tail, and it mounts the woman when she comes around, without being coerced.
So, a dog that humps her leg is actually asking for consent from the woman to mount her.

Once you accept a delusion, as your starting premise, the logic follows.
It's like setting foundations crookedly.
The foundation dictates what direction your building will take, and how long it will last before it crumbles.

The first delusional premises uniting all nihilists, is that all is subjective, and if it does not harm anyone, in other words if it does not restrict another's subjectivity, any perspective, any belief, and any choice resulting from it, is not worse or better than any other.
This has already presupposed objective reality away.
It begins by assuming everything is a product of a living, conscious mind.
All order is an order based on consciousness.
No natural order, discovered....but all order is totalitarianism, authoritarianism, if it is imposed on the subjective order of another.
Immediately we see how nature, is defined as evil, as fascism.
This will help us explain the current trendiness of transsexualism, but also the anti-race, anti-sex, fashion currently dominating the west.
Anything nature produces, any order founded on order man has no power over, is to be condemned. But to do so would be to accuse the unconscious of a motive.
How do not barter, trick, beg, demand when confronted with unconscious processes?
you can't.
So, you must make it all a product of a will, a consciousness. First God....then the state, that comes in to replace God, and then the individual himself.
Therefore all is subjective means all is a product of a mind. 
Natural order, is not discovered, and reported, it is constructed...and if not by God, then?
A human.