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Re: Free Speech
« on: February 19, 2017, 10:53:34 am »
I'm obviously for free speech,  but not universally.

I'm aware of Aeneas the Tactician (Aeneas Tacitus)  in his "Defence of a Fortified City", the need to supply speech/information to prevent hysteria.

His work is the oldest work surviving in the west on the subject of defending cities- it survived by virtue of being damn useful,  residing in cities that survived,  whereas others using other schemes perished,  so don't discount him.

What he did was encourage establishing night watches,  who would be able to calm down a scared population in the throws of waking night terrors,  who wake thinking the enemy sieving them is already inside the city.

This could cause a panic,  and "friendly fire", troops clashing with one another. So they established these troops,  they would either be stationary or patrol. The modern name for them in the US Military is "Fire Guard", they stay awake as everyone else sleeps.

You also have the case of the Mohists,  who specialized in ancient China in defensive warfare. They were a largely unique order,  closest we have in the west conceptually would be The Knights of St. John/Malta,  but in the case of the Mohists,  they would defend any city under attack,  right or wrong. They abhorred offensive warfare.

One of Mo Tzu's ideas was to restrict freedom of speech in a siege,  so that the peasants couldn't talk to one another. The Mohists did recognize stifling speech all together was a strategic mistake,  as they had to be aware of any and all Intel they had,  as well as knowing the heart and minds of the inhabitants they guarded. So they had a rule in Mohist philosophy- you can only talk to those in a higher rank above.

Remember this when you hear someone cry about Trump being a war hawk or imperialist,  offending the intelligence community. I have no doubt Kropotkin or UPF are or will say something similar. Trump is quite the opposite,  he accords closer to the defensive emphasis of the Mohists in his strategic outlook as a instinctive isolationalists- he of course wants to finish off ISIS,  but beyond this isn't showing much evidence of wanting new wars. Secondly,  he insists as any president would sanely insist, that the intelligence community only share info with higher ranks,  with no leaks. If anyone leaks,  it will be via Trump's orders.

Where Trump goes amuck with Mohist Philosophy in regards to free speech is that Mo Tzu wanted public display of music abolished. Chinese of that era built massive bells,  for every range,  that required massive expenditure to invest in musicians,  as well as to cast, store,  and maintain. It was a absurdly expensive undertaking. It wasn't the music per say,  but the insanity of the expenditure. Trump doesn't have a orchestra,  but he has some absurd,  ostentatious wealth he drops on similarly. I'm not nearly as strict as Mohism in this area,  but obviously, you shouldn't drag the orchestra to combat zones. US military does anyway for some **** bizarre reason. I shared a helicopter flight in Iraq with the 8th Army band.

You can begin hopefully to grasp why I don't like Julian Assange or Bradley Manning. Millions have died from their stunt,  and millions more have had their life destroyed,  for some liberal stunt. The truth isn't anywhere worth that much,  I would rather a lie that keeps everyone from killing each other over a truth that collapses nation after nation.

I mentioned the concept of "the noble lie" in another post. It is half of a interesting dichotomy I'm investigating in skepticism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noble_lie

I'm not saying no forever to the truth, but one needs slow moderation,  introducing information slowly to repressed populations,  so the insanity of a Bastille Day,  and the bloody days of the early French Republic doesn't reoccure. Better for philosophers to deconstruct slowly and piecemeal. I seriously would prefer people in Syria and Libya and Iraq to of lived. That was a absurd genocide.

Free Speech is supposed to involve ever increasing benefits to a responsible society. You don't talk about a society's Achilles Heel unless your planning conquest. If I knew China's deepest weakness,  or Russia's,  I would burn the paper it is written on before letting it get loose. I don't desire their deaths or downfall. So much so my own country.

In a absolute tyranny or despotism,  which isn't default always evil, some dictators like John Smith at James Town wasn't bad,  just generally is....  like a labor camp situation in North Korea, I wouldn't just release suddenly every prisoner and open up the media. Mother fuckers gonna murder each other once they can talk openly. I would do it very slowly,  stop the worst excesses in torture,  increase focus on agriculture and education,  build up social communication platforms,  get more locals into village leadership positions in elections, etc.

You can't just unleash everything at once. China has been taking this course. They don't want a Perestroika situation.

But once a state has healthy discourse,  every effort must be made to preserve it. A democracy is a absurdity without it.

 

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